nixstor
12-13 09:13 PM
IMHO "legally" exploiting the system is illegal. I don't blame the system because any system will have some flaws in them. I would rather blame people who take advantage of situations esp in scenarios like this. We all know how much time some people has waited here. We heard a story on Monday right? Have we already forgot that? IV's goals and objectives are clear on its home page. Here comes the OP, registers himself and comes up with his first post of Labor substitution and how to better himself. I don't see any thing wrong in pete getting fired up. This exact attitude is the result of 6500 members and not 25,000 or what ever.
>>it appears that you support labor substitution as long as both the employer and employee can hush up the money involved and leave no proof.<<
If I was judging you I would have concluded that you support what the OP is doing and wouldn't asked you what your stand is. It depends on how you understand what I said. Those NASDAQ listed companies you were referring to might have substituted labors but I am sure they wouldn't charge X dollars for giving a better PD or deduct from payroll under some other miscellaneous stuff. I am aware of what you are talking and what OP is talking and they are not the same. I don't need to explicitly tell how desi shops work with
pre-approved labor, esp in the current situation.
>>it appears that you support labor substitution as long as both the employer and employee can hush up the money involved and leave no proof.<<
If I was judging you I would have concluded that you support what the OP is doing and wouldn't asked you what your stand is. It depends on how you understand what I said. Those NASDAQ listed companies you were referring to might have substituted labors but I am sure they wouldn't charge X dollars for giving a better PD or deduct from payroll under some other miscellaneous stuff. I am aware of what you are talking and what OP is talking and they are not the same. I don't need to explicitly tell how desi shops work with
pre-approved labor, esp in the current situation.
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eb3retro
01-31 02:03 PM
Well, everyone wishes the rumour to be true.
But you know what, to realize the increase in fees for the I-485, they should allow people to file for it. Unless people start filing for I-485's they are not going to make the $2billion in 2 yrs. If retrogression continues, guess the fee increase doesn't make much sense.... Not sure whether I am right or wrong here.
Well, you are bringing up a very good point. May be we can setup a webfax event to USCIS, for allowing us to I-485 even if PD is not current, so that they can reap the exact benefit of this fees hike.
Core members - what say you???
But you know what, to realize the increase in fees for the I-485, they should allow people to file for it. Unless people start filing for I-485's they are not going to make the $2billion in 2 yrs. If retrogression continues, guess the fee increase doesn't make much sense.... Not sure whether I am right or wrong here.
Well, you are bringing up a very good point. May be we can setup a webfax event to USCIS, for allowing us to I-485 even if PD is not current, so that they can reap the exact benefit of this fees hike.
Core members - what say you???
gc_chahiye
08-10 12:35 PM
Perm filers hate LS guys as they went ahead of line...
Backlog guys hate Perm filers as they went ahead of line...
Eb3 guys hate EB3-EB2 conversion guys as they went ahead of line...
....and it goes on.
This shit never ends!!!:(
Strangely, everything is done within the scope of law!
:D also the EB2 guys hate the EB3-EB2 conversions as those guys also jumped to a faster line pushing these EB2'ers back...
Hope enough people show up at the DC rally and IV can get the legislators to do something about all these lines so there is no need for line jumping...
Backlog guys hate Perm filers as they went ahead of line...
Eb3 guys hate EB3-EB2 conversion guys as they went ahead of line...
....and it goes on.
This shit never ends!!!:(
Strangely, everything is done within the scope of law!
:D also the EB2 guys hate the EB3-EB2 conversions as those guys also jumped to a faster line pushing these EB2'ers back...
Hope enough people show up at the DC rally and IV can get the legislators to do something about all these lines so there is no need for line jumping...
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BarneySha
07-23 09:24 AM
Here's my timeline:
Self e-filed: May 15, 2008
Docs sent: May 23, 2008
FP: Jun 12, 2008
Card prod ordered: July 22, 2008
EB3-I / PD: Jan 2003 / I-485 - RD: Jun 2007
Will post if we got 1 or 2 yr duration EADs just as soon as I get the cards in hand.
Good luck fplks. Proc times is not accurate after all!
Self e-filed: May 15, 2008
Docs sent: May 23, 2008
FP: Jun 12, 2008
Card prod ordered: July 22, 2008
EB3-I / PD: Jan 2003 / I-485 - RD: Jun 2007
Will post if we got 1 or 2 yr duration EADs just as soon as I get the cards in hand.
Good luck fplks. Proc times is not accurate after all!
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chtting2me
10-09 08:53 PM
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Sakthisagar
10-28 10:49 AM
What do you mean? My father was an engineer and he started his Bachelor of law at age 58 in 1996 in India, after retirement. regular college, which only 10% pass out off.
I'm only comparing the economy and education not the culture.
Well that was funny, I'm mostly an atheist.
The first thing you should understand are most of these conversions are started by foreign organizations and their followers, and conversions by force or by paying money should be stopped immediately.
Well some general knowledge for you - I haven't heard of native roman catholics converting anyone. They are very conservative and it is very difficult religion to follow - numbers don't matter.
What propaganda is this? The american overseas pursuits are not related to religion.
There are some rogue organizations here, who run this as a business, with profit/loss, and they need to be monitored in India. They surely have branches there too.
Sorry guy, I do not debate with atheists sorry, because they are the most unfaithful and false creatures in this world becasue they deny themselves virtually. so thanks for the blah blahs.
I'm only comparing the economy and education not the culture.
Well that was funny, I'm mostly an atheist.
The first thing you should understand are most of these conversions are started by foreign organizations and their followers, and conversions by force or by paying money should be stopped immediately.
Well some general knowledge for you - I haven't heard of native roman catholics converting anyone. They are very conservative and it is very difficult religion to follow - numbers don't matter.
What propaganda is this? The american overseas pursuits are not related to religion.
There are some rogue organizations here, who run this as a business, with profit/loss, and they need to be monitored in India. They surely have branches there too.
Sorry guy, I do not debate with atheists sorry, because they are the most unfaithful and false creatures in this world becasue they deny themselves virtually. so thanks for the blah blahs.
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user1205
01-15 01:18 PM
I did the same and got 2 more people to send them and I'm hoping for 2 more. We're a small office but any letter counts :)
I have bought stamps/envelops and printed # of letters by myself and going desk to desk and urging Desi's to sign and send letters.
I have bought stamps/envelops and printed # of letters by myself and going desk to desk and urging Desi's to sign and send letters.
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paskal
09-01 10:46 AM
nixstor this is just standard senthil talk.
pouring water over efforts is what he does.
senthil, i will not have a gc for years. neither will many others.
and if you believe the rally is to build muscle for iv for coming congress sessions, so be it. it's still a worthwhile cause. join us in it. it's hard to actually make you join any concrete campaign- how about you show up for this one! believe me it will give weight to all your arguments if you walk the talk for a change...
pouring water over efforts is what he does.
senthil, i will not have a gc for years. neither will many others.
and if you believe the rally is to build muscle for iv for coming congress sessions, so be it. it's still a worthwhile cause. join us in it. it's hard to actually make you join any concrete campaign- how about you show up for this one! believe me it will give weight to all your arguments if you walk the talk for a change...
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BharatPremi
03-24 03:24 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5482
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nave_kum
07-31 03:08 AM
Howz one to live a moral and compassionate existence when one is fully aware of the blood, the horror inherent in life, when one finds darkness not only in onez culture but within oneself? If there is a stage at which an individual life becomes truly adult, it must be when one grasps the irony in its unfolding and accepts responsibility for a life lived in the midst of such paradox. One must live in the middle of contradiction, because if all contradiction were eliminated at once life would collapse. There r simply no answers to some of the great pressing questions. You continue to live them out, making your life a worthy expression of leaning into the light.
One of the contradictions is NOT obtaining a Green Card.
One of the contradictions is NOT obtaining a Green Card.
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sreenivas11
08-15 02:06 PM
my option is no...but i selected yes
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shree19772000
12-05 03:05 PM
I guess my question stems from the comment above. Say if I do not get my GC and I wish to go back after 10 yrs is it possible to get my SS money back even if I am on H1 status?
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qvadis
12-29 12:14 AM
Being on the other side (EB3-ROW) I read the law a bit differently ;-)
In short:
- INA 202 (a) (2) establishes a 7% country limit for both FB and EB categories together and per fiscal year.
- INA 202 (a) (3) allows to make unused visas available per quarter in excess to the 7% country limit.
- INA 202 (e) specifies that any visas in excess to 7% must be distributed equally to FB and EB, and each sub-categories.
- INA 202 (a) (5) gives preference to EB (over FB) and determines the allottment for additional visas with preference to EB1 over EB2, etc.
INA 202 (a) (5)
If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter.
I guess the question here is, what does "visas available" in conjunction with INA 203(b) mean.
INA 203 (b) (3) (EB3)
[...] Visas shall be made available, in a number not to exceed 28.6 percent of such worldwide level, plus any visas not required for the classes specified in paragraphs (1) and (2) [...]
The way I read it all this is that the rules in INA 203 (b) (1)...(5) should be applied first before INA 202 (a) (5), ie. additional visas are only available if EB-3 ROW is current.
So, the allottment should work as follows:
Any unused visas in EB-1 (with regards to 7% country limit) will spill over to EB-2, and unused visas from EB-2 to EB-3, etc. If there are still unused visas, they will be used for countries that are subject to the 7% limit, first in EB-1, then EB-2, etc.
Even before AC21 rule enacted in 2000, there was no �hard� country cap as per INA then. [...]
INA 202 (a) (3)
Therefore, the 7% country cap had always been �soft� till year 2000.
(*Note: DOS do not mix FB and EB categories for visa number allocation/calculation to meet the per country limit. They keep both in separate track to meet separately the 7% limit)
I would disagree with the premise in your note. You could also read it that the 7% applies to the sum of both FB and EB categories: "[T]he total number of immigrant visas [...] under subsections (a) and (b) [...] may not exceed 7 percent [...] of the total number of such visas made available under such subsections [...].�
Subsection (e) actually seems to suggest that any additional visas have to be allotted proportional to FB and EB categories:
[I]INA 202 (e)
If it is determined that the total number of immigrant visas [...] will exceed the numerical limitation [...] visa numbers with respect to natives of that state or area shall be allocated (to the extent practicable and otherwise consistent with this section and section 203) in a manner so that -
(1)
the ratio of the visa numbers made available under section 203(a) to the visa numbers made available under section 203(b) is equal to the ratio of the worldwide level of immigration under section 201(c) to such level under section 201 (d);
After year 2000, AC21 has completely removed country cap in each employment category, if excess visas are available in each preference categories.
I guess the important phrase in the law is IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE. You seem to interpret 203 (b) as only up to 28.5% are available without the ones spilled over from higher categories.
In short:
- INA 202 (a) (2) establishes a 7% country limit for both FB and EB categories together and per fiscal year.
- INA 202 (a) (3) allows to make unused visas available per quarter in excess to the 7% country limit.
- INA 202 (e) specifies that any visas in excess to 7% must be distributed equally to FB and EB, and each sub-categories.
- INA 202 (a) (5) gives preference to EB (over FB) and determines the allottment for additional visas with preference to EB1 over EB2, etc.
INA 202 (a) (5)
If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter.
I guess the question here is, what does "visas available" in conjunction with INA 203(b) mean.
INA 203 (b) (3) (EB3)
[...] Visas shall be made available, in a number not to exceed 28.6 percent of such worldwide level, plus any visas not required for the classes specified in paragraphs (1) and (2) [...]
The way I read it all this is that the rules in INA 203 (b) (1)...(5) should be applied first before INA 202 (a) (5), ie. additional visas are only available if EB-3 ROW is current.
So, the allottment should work as follows:
Any unused visas in EB-1 (with regards to 7% country limit) will spill over to EB-2, and unused visas from EB-2 to EB-3, etc. If there are still unused visas, they will be used for countries that are subject to the 7% limit, first in EB-1, then EB-2, etc.
Even before AC21 rule enacted in 2000, there was no �hard� country cap as per INA then. [...]
INA 202 (a) (3)
Therefore, the 7% country cap had always been �soft� till year 2000.
(*Note: DOS do not mix FB and EB categories for visa number allocation/calculation to meet the per country limit. They keep both in separate track to meet separately the 7% limit)
I would disagree with the premise in your note. You could also read it that the 7% applies to the sum of both FB and EB categories: "[T]he total number of immigrant visas [...] under subsections (a) and (b) [...] may not exceed 7 percent [...] of the total number of such visas made available under such subsections [...].�
Subsection (e) actually seems to suggest that any additional visas have to be allotted proportional to FB and EB categories:
[I]INA 202 (e)
If it is determined that the total number of immigrant visas [...] will exceed the numerical limitation [...] visa numbers with respect to natives of that state or area shall be allocated (to the extent practicable and otherwise consistent with this section and section 203) in a manner so that -
(1)
the ratio of the visa numbers made available under section 203(a) to the visa numbers made available under section 203(b) is equal to the ratio of the worldwide level of immigration under section 201(c) to such level under section 201 (d);
After year 2000, AC21 has completely removed country cap in each employment category, if excess visas are available in each preference categories.
I guess the important phrase in the law is IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE. You seem to interpret 203 (b) as only up to 28.5% are available without the ones spilled over from higher categories.
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jayleno
07-26 12:36 AM
Buddy if you are looking for some sympathy for your situation....none from me. Dont blame me for my unnecessary post...I will not blame you for the unnecessary thread. We will call it even :). Just relax my friend.
Sharing my bookmark with you...may help with your situation.
http://www.thirdage.com/healthgate/files/78992.html
I know before you start blaming me for this thread, as it is of no use, I would like to point out that most of you must be experiencing the same thing. I didn't care much for Visa bulletin until it became current for EB2 two weeks back. As the time progress, I am doing all sorts of things, like checking USCIS case status, and checking everything that can possibly give me some information. I know that it is waste of time, I know it is not good for health, I know that I will get GC when time comes, but still, my mind is tricking me to think about it. I checked all these forums until 2A.M last night. I am not having enough sleep. I am waiting for a opportunity to get rid of my desi employer. I am really getting frustrated (I am not saying that I have been waiting for GC approval desperately). I just want to share my frustration and what I have been going through. I know I am in a better position than most of other people whose priority date is not even current. I wish they never dangled a carrot in front of me. I am not sure if they disappoint me next month, but I am still keeping my hopes. Hopefully, I would get over this and have enough sleep from today.
Sharing my bookmark with you...may help with your situation.
http://www.thirdage.com/healthgate/files/78992.html
I know before you start blaming me for this thread, as it is of no use, I would like to point out that most of you must be experiencing the same thing. I didn't care much for Visa bulletin until it became current for EB2 two weeks back. As the time progress, I am doing all sorts of things, like checking USCIS case status, and checking everything that can possibly give me some information. I know that it is waste of time, I know it is not good for health, I know that I will get GC when time comes, but still, my mind is tricking me to think about it. I checked all these forums until 2A.M last night. I am not having enough sleep. I am waiting for a opportunity to get rid of my desi employer. I am really getting frustrated (I am not saying that I have been waiting for GC approval desperately). I just want to share my frustration and what I have been going through. I know I am in a better position than most of other people whose priority date is not even current. I wish they never dangled a carrot in front of me. I am not sure if they disappoint me next month, but I am still keeping my hopes. Hopefully, I would get over this and have enough sleep from today.
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gcseeker2002
03-02 03:17 PM
I was just curious to know and the reason why I asked was, if you read all the posts on this thread, one person (sheela) had a similar 'house visit' by an ICE agent...who was asking questions mostly on wire transfers...so, was trying to see if there was any similarity in both the cases?
The simplest and easiest case for transferring money is because we dont know if we will ever get GCs, and our jobs are not guaranteed as we are on H1, so we can say we feel safer to keep the money back in home country than in this country and hence transfer the money.
BTW, bujjigadu123 , your visit was scheduled for last week if I am right going by your OP, can you pls let us know what happened
The simplest and easiest case for transferring money is because we dont know if we will ever get GCs, and our jobs are not guaranteed as we are on H1, so we can say we feel safer to keep the money back in home country than in this country and hence transfer the money.
BTW, bujjigadu123 , your visit was scheduled for last week if I am right going by your OP, can you pls let us know what happened
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rsayed
04-13 11:26 AM
What does this mean? That there are not as many approved labor cases as anticipated originally by the USCIS????
"F. VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
Recent discussions have indicated that both the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) and the Department of Labor still have a significant amount of cases in their backlog reduction efforts. As a result, the anticipated increase in demand has not yet materialized and may not for some time. Therefore, in an effort to maximize number use under the annual numerical limit, the Worldwide and Philippines Employment Third preference cut-off dates have been advanced by one year.
Unless there is a significant increase in Employment demand, it will be necessary to continue this rate of movement during the upcoming months. Such movement could be expanded to include other chargeability areas and preference categories.
One consequence of rapid cut-off date advancement is the inevitable increase in demand for numbers as adjustment of status cases are brought to conclusion at CIS Offices. Such increased demand could have dramatic impact on the cut-off dates. Readers will be provided as much advance notice as possible should this occur."
"F. VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
Recent discussions have indicated that both the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) and the Department of Labor still have a significant amount of cases in their backlog reduction efforts. As a result, the anticipated increase in demand has not yet materialized and may not for some time. Therefore, in an effort to maximize number use under the annual numerical limit, the Worldwide and Philippines Employment Third preference cut-off dates have been advanced by one year.
Unless there is a significant increase in Employment demand, it will be necessary to continue this rate of movement during the upcoming months. Such movement could be expanded to include other chargeability areas and preference categories.
One consequence of rapid cut-off date advancement is the inevitable increase in demand for numbers as adjustment of status cases are brought to conclusion at CIS Offices. Such increased demand could have dramatic impact on the cut-off dates. Readers will be provided as much advance notice as possible should this occur."
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willwin
06-05 12:59 PM
I understand that is not a reliable source of tracking approval pattern, however, this is the only tracker we have available and this gives us fairly good idea about USCIS processing.
Based on , there are about 1200 Approvals for EB-2 (Including ROW, India and China) since Oct01 2007.
However, there are only 450 approvals for EB-3 (Including ROW, India and China) sine Oct01'2007.
So howcome they ran out of EB3 numbers when there are very few approvals for this year. I was hoping they will run out of EB2 numbers instead.
Any insight on this?
Thanks.
I guess that depends upon how many of the applicants have registered in .
If it is 1%, then CIS would have used 130,000 by now, if it was 2%, 65,000 used by now...
Based on , there are about 1200 Approvals for EB-2 (Including ROW, India and China) since Oct01 2007.
However, there are only 450 approvals for EB-3 (Including ROW, India and China) sine Oct01'2007.
So howcome they ran out of EB3 numbers when there are very few approvals for this year. I was hoping they will run out of EB2 numbers instead.
Any insight on this?
Thanks.
I guess that depends upon how many of the applicants have registered in .
If it is 1%, then CIS would have used 130,000 by now, if it was 2%, 65,000 used by now...
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GodBlessYou
04-01 07:17 PM
god_bless_you
I am not sure what the issue is with your account. I know Siva has been really busy. Can you, as a quick fix, create a new account and fax from that?
Thanks
OK Done !! sent two faxes!!
I am not sure what the issue is with your account. I know Siva has been really busy. Can you, as a quick fix, create a new account and fax from that?
Thanks
OK Done !! sent two faxes!!
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willwin
07-08 12:20 PM
Is there any update on three bills in house. I have checked the hearing schedule for all committees and there seems to be no hearing scheduled for any of the bills. House in session till September 7 and after that District work period and convention shows, which leaves us with just 4 weeks from now and after that It reconvens from September 9 with target adjournment date of 26th september and i m pretty sure no congressional rep will like to cast vote on any bills before going into election....
Prospects seems bleak now... Is there anything we can do...any last attempt that is required? If so...Let us all know...
I doubt if you would get any reply to this!
Prospects seems bleak now... Is there anything we can do...any last attempt that is required? If so...Let us all know...
I doubt if you would get any reply to this!
kanvenk
12-12 03:40 PM
I concur.
Thanks.
Please remember that even if BEC clears the application with 2001 priority dates. These people still need to:
1) Apply for I140
2) Have I-140 Approved
3) Apply for I-485 only if their priority date is current
4) Complete various I-485 tasks like fingerprinting, BACKGROUND CHECKS (this is a huge one and unless you are lucky you can get stranded for anywhere between 6 months to 3 years)
5) Now after completing 1 - 4 above you can expect that they will apply a visa number to the application
Thanks.
Please remember that even if BEC clears the application with 2001 priority dates. These people still need to:
1) Apply for I140
2) Have I-140 Approved
3) Apply for I-485 only if their priority date is current
4) Complete various I-485 tasks like fingerprinting, BACKGROUND CHECKS (this is a huge one and unless you are lucky you can get stranded for anywhere between 6 months to 3 years)
5) Now after completing 1 - 4 above you can expect that they will apply a visa number to the application
anilsal
01-18 03:56 PM
Folks, can dependent's participate in writing letters to President? I have already mailed my hand written letter to White House and copy to IV team, in addition to that I got confirmation from other Indians with whom I work also mailed their letters..If dependents are also allowed then count for another 10 letters from my side...;)
Anybody can write letters. It does not have to be the affected alone. Friends, colleagues, US citizens, relatives.
Anybody can write letters. It does not have to be the affected alone. Friends, colleagues, US citizens, relatives.
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